-- Christine Caine . But it should also be motivated by a desire to see false teachers come to repentance and faith. Blessings. Luke 19:39-40 3 9Some of the Pharisees in the crowd said to Jesus, Teacher, rebuke your disciples! 40I tell you, he replied, if they keep quiet, the stones will cry out.. Numerous private jets. Oh, absolutely. I guess you guys would be the first to throw the first stone. All poster children of false teachers! Put out your little warning marker if you need to when you find someone is acting falsely. 2:11, 14). Are you intimidated by the words, testimony, presence of a powerful woman of God? And in the same way, if our body is broken before we pray the sinner's prayer, it's still broken the minute after we pray it. Xoxox. I dont see you recommending ANYONE else. 3. We recognise their continuing connection to the land and waters, and thank them for protecting this land and its ecosystems since time immemorial. Drive by poster, she would never back up her statement with scripture, as it would show the lack of discernment and ignorance of those that follow Copeland, Hagin, Osteen, Meyer and every other wolf that teaches that abomination. Apollos was a man mighty in the scriptures who taught accurately about Jesus but who nevertheless was only familiar with Johns baptism. It was my own walk with Christ, studying of the scripture, and life-changing experiences that helped me grow and see otherwise. And if I could get to a place where Im thinking: How did I get here? theres got to be a lot of other people going, How did I get here? 2Preach the word; be prepared in season and out of season; reprove, rebuke, and encourage with every form of patient instruction. Its not about who is qualified, whether they are male or female, whether they have gone to college for decades or even if they arent human. You sit there and judge others who are you to judge. YOU have an issue. Quotes. That's where it all started. God speaks to male and femalehe does not discriminate. This slideshow is only available for subscribers.Please log in or subscribe to view the slideshow. Weve never sat down and had this big discussion like: You are the man and I am the woman, so I have to wash dishes and underwear and that makes me somehow more biblical whatever that means. >. ~ Christine Caine. God, not us, instituted the hierarchy in His church. I have no idea who it is that wrote this but you are a mess. I used to come on sites like this and tear down women like Joyce Meyer and Christine Caine, much like you do. The Lord convicted me about that through Ms Caines message, and I will forever be grateful to Him for the message and to her for being the vessel. "If you had asked me, I would have told you that I had no time or margin to fit in a physical health battle. Once she did so, she became an upstoppable force. Or when Ive pointed something on their website that was completely false, the usual response? Jakes conferences, Joel Osteen conferences, Bethel conferences, preaching at Perry Nobles church, Robert Morris church and conferences, Rick Warrens church, and Steven Furticks church and conferences. The issue is whether we believe God is who he says he is. Lets crack open the Gospel of Luke and just read it again. The pandemic has caused people to drift from so many things faith, church, relationships. Deuteronomy 18: 10,11,12 You are even going by a username that hides your real identity. Weak and shallow theology is taught, and many grab onto it because they do not read Gods word as intended. I wanted to be open: drifting isnt always Im leaving Christianity, Im going to start doing sex, drugs, rock and roll Drifting can be as subtle as taking your foot off the gas, going: Its too costly to keep pressing on, Im just going to slow down a bit. We need to examine our hearts. It's the will to persevere even in the face of fear. Your talent will open the door but only your character can keep you there. CHRISTINE CAINE is a dynamic and passionate visionary whose powerful testimony of restoration impacts thousands of lives around the world each year. Is there any significance attached to the fact that Aquila is not named first every time, but equally shares mention with his wife? Here is a Pastrix Caine sermon review. Lets get people into the boat and stop fighting amongst one another. You seem to be very confident that your approach is Biblical, and in the end, that is what really matters. I was adopted as an infant and raised in a traditional Greek Orthodox home with traditional gender roles. There is some speculation regarding Lydias social status. Premier Christianity uses cookies Read our cookie policy. I was born in Sydney, Australia. Im genuinely interested (as Im sure others are on this site) about how it went. Complementarian John Piper shares teaching duties with a woman? 22 Jesus saith unto him, I say not unto thee, Until seven times: but, Until seventy times seven. Shes as passionate about seeing souls saved as she is about social justice Im like an old-school revivalist! she tells me. You go all the way back to the Garden of Eden and the very first recorded conversation, right there between God and man, is God asking where are you and Adam saying I was naked and ashamed so I hid. 14 Even so it is not the will of your Father which is in heaven, that one of these little ones should perish. Many dont like that a woman has been brought to task for doing something she shouldnt be doing. Please tell me that you have been right 100% of the time in your teachings and have never needed greater depth of insight. A word of advice to those erroneously holding unto these beliefs, read your Bibles, put down your favorite idol for a second and read what Jesus said about: False teachers, false brethren, faulty theology, and the biggest of them all the coming judgement on these purveyors of lies and on the whole world itself. At one point, 24 years ago, holding a toilet brush, I laughed out loud and thought, Wow, this is not what I thought ministry would look like. God bless you. Priscilla and her husband were Jewish tentmakers, show me in scripture where she was referenced as a leader of her household? Im watching people deconstruct their faith, prominent leaders renouncing Jesus. While I am not an avid follower of Caine, Meyer or Beth Moore, the times I have seen them, their husbands were in the audience (and their travel schedules referenced). Your talent will open the door but only your character can keep you there. I understand a loving nudge in the right direction from a truly loving soul whos purpose in life is to point people towards heaven.. There are soooo many books that have women leaders in them. 03422292). I cannot believe I just read this comment on a Christian site. I think this is a site for pharisees. Together with her husband, Nick, they founded Equip & Empower Ministries, A21, Propel Women, and Zoe Churches. The surgery in August lasted an hour and when pathology reports came back with no cancerous or precancerous cells in her throat region, Caine says she was grateful but in her selflessness, she knew someone else in her same condition would probably get a different report that day so she prayed for them instead. Christine Caine: Fix Your Eyes on Jesus For the New Year, Christine Caine shares a word of encouragement to help you grow in your faith. And Id much rather that than to shut up or wait for a man to tell me what to do. What is your heart full of? It was a fantastic interview from a man who showed he was searching for truth and was willing to change. Our job is not to judge others. Just because we think we are divorcing or reimagining the symbol from its original meaning does not make it holy. http://followingjesuschrist3.com/2014/09/18/false-prophets-and-teachers/, Wow all I have to say is thank God he will be judging me & not you people All I see you doing here is turning people away from God spewing such hate, who are you to judge? Jesus. Emma Fowle is assistant editor of Premier Christianity and editor of Voice of Hope, Premier's quarterly devotional magazine. Hearsay? People who post here are haters and not lovers of Christ! Published on 06 December 2016. Theologians disagree as to whether Lydia was a free woman or servant. Teachers? You guys sound more like a Witch Hunt than Christians bad example for Christianity. They make themselves rich by promising you the same. The examples of Apollos and Peter show us that any one of us might be subject to imbibing and disseminating false teaching. When it happens over a long period of time, you then begin to think it's happening because of who you are. God can make anything come toppling down. During the many moments that she sat in waiting rooms, Caine also questioned why some people had it worse than her and why waiting rooms are not seen as ministry opportunities by many. Jehovahs Witnesses And there is one thing you must remember about wolves which separates them from Christians. We extend that respect to all First Nations peoples. ), and it is my prayer they will be baptized this Easter. 9 And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire. I find this website quick to site scriptures to denounce the heretic in question, but slow to provide biblical reference to support their own advice/logic. What are you making your God? Christ and Paul confronted people DIRECTLY. These people you speak of are powerful speakers of Gods word.. Its to bad you didnt spend your time teaching the Love of God rather then sit here in judgment of people your time would be better spent. 32 Then his lord, after that he had called him, said unto him, O thou wicked servant, I forgave thee all that debt, because thou desiredst me: 33 Shouldest not thou also have had compassion on thy fellowservant, even as I had pity on thee? 31 So when his fellowservants saw what was done, they were very sorry, and came and told unto their lord all that was done. I cannot be made up like I am for television for everything I do, or I will never have a life! she says. Continue reading. Paul ratchets up the rhetoric when facing down serious error coming from Hymenaeus and Alexander: Some have rejected and suffered shipwreck in regard to their faith. I think this is a site for pharisees. Pray tell how? 4. Billy Graham Minute. Lydias evident social power exemplified by her control of a household and ownership of a house (which she offered to St. Paul and his companions) indicates that she was most likely a free woman and possibly a widow. The couple also run a network of churches in Europe, as well as Propel Women, a ministry that aims to equip women to fulfil their God-given purpose. Dont sit back and have others do the work for you. "God is able to take the mess of our past and turn it into a message. Pastors have a responsibility to oppose false teaching whenever it arises. Christine and Nick Caine join Matt and Laurie Crouch on TBN's Praise to discuss Christine's testimony of adoption and being born in shame. ph: +61 2 9854 7000 | fax: +61 2 9831 4999. It cost me everything to go forward with Jesus. Sorry Michael, the Catholic faith bows down to Mary, the mother, youll hardly ever talk about JESUS, mary didnt hang on the cross 4 us, JESUS did, n when u speak of women shouldnt lead in churches, I believe thats in the old testament, not the Gospels, rock on Christine caine. I have a friend I have started sharing my faith and studying the Bible with (GASP, and Im a WOMAN! What do you spend most of your time worrying about? Talk about losing sight of what REALLY matters. Priscilla also led her household in the making of disciples. Id like to know how you find Christine Cains teachings to not be Biblical? Whats your take on it? All you have to do to drift is nothing. Get more articles like this delivered straight to your inbox! Paul even confronted Peter to his face about his hypocrisy in front of the fellowship. . Keep seeking the Lord and His truth will be found by you. Part of Word of Faith heresy is the habitual mishandling and twisting of Scripture while teaching: taking verses out of context, attempting to make the Bible say things it does not say in order to fit the theology of the teacher, and reading oneself, ones audience, or ones own ideas into Scripture (eisegesis). Breaking fellowship might seem a hard thing to do, but remember, if a sister persists in her sin or wont hear you after giving them the scriptures, that means theyhave already broken fellowship with Jesus. That's probably why I'm so intense, passionate, and serious about my faithbecause it wasn't a light decision. 40.2K followers. . 2:17). is one of many scriptures that come to mind, I love that you are always willing to name names, as we are required to do in Romans 16:17. LOL! God bless Christine Caine as well as Joyce Meyer and every Maria Magdalene out there! Please show us where we have been prideful. He takes the trials and tests and turns them into a testimony.', and 'Nothing about my birth - or yours - was random or accidental. Like the Old Testament is a handbook for raising small children, and the prophets are a way of example for teenagers, the New Testament serves as a college level class on living. And I believe that impacts 24 hours of our day, seven days a week and every sphere of life. Question for you: what are you doing to follow Matthew 18 and take your questions and concerns to Christine, Joyce, etc in person? We did a lot of hard work before we got married, which has meant a lot less friction, because all those big conversations about purpose, travelling, doing whatever Jesus called us to do, family life and how that would look were done before we got married. We sit in our I see names of preaches being thrown around without regard, I see many arguments going back and forth trying to outdo one another with self-knowledge and a a tonne of Bible bashing. Just like any Christian today, either male or female. Word of Faith Traveling without your husband and encouraging women to submit to their husbands and follow their husbands leadership in the home! loads of accusations with no documentation.. The mass followings, the hundreds for Christ are just numbers. I have seen words tear apart friendships, relationships, business partnerships, and churches, and so I want to use mine responsibly. So if you are rooted and grounded in Jesus and anchored to Jesus, youre good. Toll Free: 1-877-247-2426. A father of two who saw an opportunity for both his family and his business to get involved. Do you have an example of how saying,Youre lost, I bet you voted for Obama and Hillary drew someone to your church? And this is very encouraging & very helpful to a whole lot of pole who have been hurt. To enjoy our website, you'll need to enable JavaScript in your web browser. If you know scripture you could in an instance see where Christine Caine is wrong. talks faith in Jesus, the problem with Black Lives Matter, being a victim of 'cancel culture', New Yorker satire headline mocks those who 'search the Bible' for Gods views, Barry Black: America's first black Senate chaplain says this Bible verse saved him from a life of crime, Heaven will be diverse. Has the author of this article ever listened to Christine Caine? Beth Moore regularly travels to speaking and teaching engagements without her husband, as well as these others. Victoria Osteen shares how God can use your past to bring greatness to the Kingdom. Christines book Unashamed is the third in a series including Undaunted and Unstoppable. (Marin) Im pretty confident that both of these women were richly blessed.. Best-selling Christian author Christine Caine is calling on all Christians to get real and be authentic in their relationships in her new book. This year, people have had to cope with things they never thought theyd have to cope with. Jesus called the Pharisees out to their faces. An emotional empty garbage bag called Churchianity, where the Caines, Hybels, Moores if this world deposit their lies. In (Luke 11:35) (skopeo) is translated take heed.. I felt many emotions and very vulnerable, but I could also feel God's presence with me in a palpable way. Here are the lessons the Church needs to learn, The Profile: In-depth interviews with hundreds of inspiring Christians. Calling out a false teacher? We must be careful not to imply through our associations affirmation of false teachers. But theyre not the only ones suffering shame; even those with a charmed life are prone to being ashamed of who they are, she said. Christine considers Joyce her spiritual mother: https://michellelesleybooks.com/2016/03/04/chhave-no-regard-for-the-offerings-of-caine/. The word avoid is from (ekklino) which means, to turn away from, to turn aside, turning away from those who cause offences and occasions of stumbling, turning away from division makers and errorists. It seems that we are enjoined to keep out of their way and not fall in with them. As a young woman, I was making a lot of poor choices. Using the bible as a standard? It wont be the one warning marker but the thousands of them which will label a false teacher like a bad review on Amazon.com. I and pray that evil will not flourish. Im the daughter of Greek immigrants. But battles never come at convenient times, do they? My birth certificate doesnt have a name on it. Jakes conferences, Joel Osteen conferences, Bethel conferences, at Perry Nobles church, Robert Morris church and conferences, Rick Warrens church, and Steven Furticks church and conferences (all to co-ed audiences) just to name a few. Hear our latest radio programs including GPS, Hour of Decision Online, and Billy Graham Minute. SO MANY THINGS WE CALL BIBLICAL ARE JUST CULTURAL, For those that have not come across you before, tell us a little about yourself. 6. Living in the archaic mindeset that a womans place is in the home negates part of what God created and presumes mankind will not grow and adapt over time. Wolf? A cult? 107 quotes from Christine Caine: 'Sometimes when you're in a dark place you think you've been buried, but you've actually been planted.', 'God is able to take the mess of our past and turn it into a message. Rather than writing about her on message boards, I encourage you to follow Matthew 18 and attempt to reach her directly (her website, her social media accounts, her ministry, her appearancesincluding one in Chicago this week). Now lets flip that around and look at it from our perspective. The key issue is how we respond to correction. (Revelation 2:20). Moreover, the congregation must not behave in any way that might indicate endorsement of their false teaching. God is beyond amazing, yet Meyer and Caine trample His commandments. If he is that kind of guy, then theres a real question about his fitness for ministry. Study of the two commandments Jesus left us would be better use of your time. My goal, in my openness, is to say: God can use anyone. I believe theres a heaven and hell, that Jesus Christ died on the cross, was buried and rose again for our sins. . We have examples in scripture where bona fide believers are the source of error in the church. 2:14). You will find multiple examples of Christine Caine teaching this way in the Additional Resources section at the end of this article. Yes I agree with that, those women who followed the call of God, were and are obedient to God are a treasure in the church, good and Noble women that hear and follow their Master, not the worldly ones that ensnare the gullible, the undiscerning, the ones too lazy to read scripture, those are led astray by these false teachers. I pray that you havent turned anyone away from God by listening to your bunch of garbage. If you cant see how presumptuous that is, well Youre assuming without knowing me, how do you know i would throw anyone in hell? 19 Again I say unto you, That if two of you shall agree on earth as touching any thing that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my Father which is in heaven. Did you know that Lydia and Priscilla are both listed BEFORE their husbands in the book of Acts because the writing style of the day indicated listing the LEADER of the household FIRST? Beth Moore teaches the same thing, but oh my goodness! In other words, false teachers become subject to the churchs discipline. I have Matthew 18 to back me up.. It is difficult not to be inspired by her passion for Jesus and her unwavering belief that God is still in the business of doing what the Bible says hes always done. Its the old Creator/creature vs. continuity of being thing. Spoke at Bethel Church, delivered there a false testimony and strongly unbiblical teachings. Their two hearts beat as one. Then mankind graduated from a belief based on laws, as we all did growing up under the laws and rules of our parents, and came to live in a belief based on faith. Get encouraging stories and messages from Billy Graham delivered to your inbox every weekend. To my family, when I chose to put Christ first, I was turning my back on everything: on tradition, on culture, on them. Wanting to be right? So bnos na minha vida e de milhares!!! Yes, I do know you to say such a thing. Christine Caine shares how she found out that she was adopted.Get Today's Offer From Joyce: https://joycemeyer.org/store Follow Joyce: WEBSITE: https://joycemeyer.org FACEBOOK: https://www.facebook.com/JoyceMeyerMinistries/ INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/JoyceMeyer/ TWITTER: https://www.twitter.com/JoyceMeyer/ Joyce Meyer, one of the worlds leading practical Bible teachers and New York Times best-selling author, shares encouragement and advice to help us enjoy our daily lives. Actually there are two churches, THE BRIDE and the HARLOT CHURCH. nor is pointing out false teachings and trying to warn and help others to be aware and learn, again you need to shut up and start reading your Bible and learning His word and not idolizing people and your own self made ideals and desires, and stop spouting ridiculous dim witted statements that are absurd,shut up and read His Word Im pretty confident that both of these women were richly blessed. I will NOT throw out that message. So, I guess Queen Esther is in hell? Not every purveyor of false teaching is a lackey of the Devil. Why do you cite verses out of context and with no relevance to cause fear and that let see through such envy and bitterness? These are the very people that turn people away from God with all their judging and misinterpretation of the bible. Is the author of this post aware of the prominence of women in Jesus ministry? There is one church and we should be united. Weve seen that, this last year, everything else has been shaken. For four months following the surgery, every minute of every day was excruciatingly painful. What do you think you can do differently to appeal to the masses that you should be trying to save?. Im truly confused and wondering. 23 Therefore is the kingdom of heaven likened unto a certain king, which would take account of his servants. Harmoniously, they labored together in the service of the church. Again, the stakes are high here. Privacy I have not said an iota about them, because I have not had any sort of personal interaction with them. I am curious to know the biblical basis for those who are unmarried to not be able to minister? There was no big crisis of faith, she says, just a build-up of the pressures of life and the responsibilities that she carries. Youll find her corrupt theology lacking. As long as Im abiding in him, then the testimony is, he says: No eye has seen, no ear has heard, nor has it entered into any persons heart the things that God has for those that love him (1 Corinthians 2:19). 24 And when he had begun to reckon, one was brought unto him, which owed him ten thousand talents. False teacher? So Ive got to do exactly what Im telling anyone else to do. We cant save anyone, we present the unadulterated Gospels, we present Jesus as the only way to The Father, the only way to salvation. What about Ruth? If the message they are preaching are not the message of the True Gospel of Jesus Christ, they are not preaching truth and therefore are not bound by the rules for taking aside someone in the church. I guarantee you did! Woman came from man. Do you want the standard canned answer I get? You have yet to back up with scripture how what you are doing is the appropriate way of handling false teachers. Elizabeth Prata of The End Times lays out six reasons why Caine must be avoided like the plague. One of the scriptures cited here had absolutely no relation to anything i have ever heard Christine say, write or even imply I am referring to your quote of Rev 2:10 How is Christine having a Jezebel manipulation attitude? I used to come on sites like this and tear down women like Joyce Meyer and Christine Caine, much like you do. Her work is a testimony of the . Over the years I've had to fight to renew my mind to a place where I understand at the core of my being that Jesus is trustworthy. 3For the time will come when men will not tolerate sound doctrine, but with itching ears they will gather around themselves teachers to suit their own desires. Updated February 2023. Sorry, Christine Caine nor Joyce Meters is Esther, do what Esther did nor follow what is commanded: 13 And Mordecai told them to answer Esther: Do not think in your heart that you will escape in the kings palace any more than all the other Jews. We are commanded to come out from her. I need to follow the scripture, which means to start off with lovingly going to them one-on-one, then taking a witness, and then taking it before the church. We strive to bring His word to people! "Of course the enemy wanted to silence my voice," said Caine. Love is the most powerful thing on earth, I dont know why you waste your time gossiping and making assumptions up about people But its not my place to worry about that. Because women did not possess the same equality rights as modern women, it appears unusual that Lydia would be capable of inviting a group of foreign men to her house without a mans consent. They called people out TO THEIR FACES, whether in speech or by letter. We read that stuff, but I dont know if we really believe it. 22Many will say to Me on that day, Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name drive out demons and perform many miracles? 23Then I will tell them plainly, I never knew you; depart from Me, you workers of lawlessness., Man was made in Gods image. I do not talk about ministries I have not had any sort of direct contact with. 28 But the same servant went out, and found one of his fellowservants, which owed him an hundred pence: and he laid hands on him, and took him by the throat, saying, Pay me that thou owest. I had to trust that God knew what was going on in my life and that if He brought me to it, He would bring me through it. Christine Caine and Victoria Osteen, from Lakewood Church , join Laurie Crouch on TBN's Praise in Jerusalem. Hebrews 12:27 says: Only those things that can be shaken will be shaken so that those things that cannot be shaken shall remain. Were about to go back out into the real world again and what is the only thing that wasnt shaken? Yet for Scott, the negative impact of this event lingers. Where does it say its ok to have others do the confronting for you? In retrospect, Caine says she had to endure much despair in order to have a story of healing but it was because she ended up learning a lesson she thought she already knew. This is such a mess. 8 Wherefore if thy hand or thy foot offend thee, cut them off, and cast them from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life halt or maimed, rather than having two hands or two feet to be cast into everlasting fire. Isnt there a harlot in the lineage of Christ? Apology appreciated. The most I have heard Christine Caine & Joyce Meyer teach on is forgiveness, healing process and how to move on in Jesus Christ. As we came closer to the time of Christ, mankind in its rebellious teenage years, we had the lessons of the prophets. But employ the wrong application. 2) What is the role of a single women & widows in the church, if she is not preoccupied with the duties of wife and mother? 18 Verily I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven. l suppose you believe judging others is wrong correct? So I am just not comfortable speaking about ministries or people I have not had interactions with. They were completely syncretic with the pagan worship of that day. I am not at that point where I would feel confident before Him doing the same, so I only ask that you understand. (1 John 1:6-7). Thanks to Christine, I plan on inviting several lost people to study the Bible with me this Easter season. The smile on Christine Caine's face is as striking as the shock she felt when she uncovered the secret her parents kept from her. I was sexually abused by several men in my life at a very young age. 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